If I remember correctly, Langaria is Jonas's planet and Hebridan is the "Space Race" planet. And now they've been conquered by the Ori. If notable planets like those have been conquered, then think of all the other worlds that have and will be conquered.
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Re: Ori conquests
Mon, August 28, 2006 - 7:57 AMWill the Ori finally bring peace to Langaria ?
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Sun, September 3, 2006 - 11:54 AMWell have faith in Sg1 and their allies. Although the Ancients will not be helping and that many well known planets have been conquered, converted, or exterminated including the Free Jaffa nation capitol we will be victorious. -
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Sun, September 3, 2006 - 2:28 PMThat said, the latest SG1 episode has compelled me to conclude that the Ori are pure evil. they're worse than the Goa'uld, the Replicators and the Wraith combined. -
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Tue, September 5, 2006 - 6:16 PMTheres no such thing as evil silly.
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Sun, September 10, 2006 - 10:23 PMWell, of course SG-1 will win out in the end. They are the heroes. It won't be easy. There will be dark times, hardship and sacrifices. If they won easily it would be pretty anticlimactic after the big build-up the Ori have received and not very dramatic.
I wonder how it will all work out in the relatively limited time remaining in the show though. The defeat of the Goa'uld took several seasons to play out. The Wraith are still holding strong as the main Atlantis antagonists and look to remain there for a while to come. I wonder how they will resolve a large threat like the Ori with less than a season remaining in the show's run. -
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Mon, September 11, 2006 - 1:47 AMMaybe the writers won't finish the story line with the Ori in hopes that enough people will complain and Sci Fi or some other network will bring the show back for a few more seasons? Or maybe they'll finish the story line with a feature film? I wouldn't mind seeing another feature film .... I thought (as I would imagine everyone reading this did, too) the original Stargate was an awesome flick. -
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Mon, September 11, 2006 - 3:15 AMI guess it's possible. I have trouble seeing them finishing what is ostensibly the last season of the show without some sort of resolution of the Ori storyline.
I doubt they will be completely eliminated as a threat. They haven't done that with any other major antagonist that I can remember. They seem to like to keep the door open for bringing back former enemies later on if they want or need to.
I expect that the current Ori attempt to conquer Earth's galaxy will be foiled somehow. The Ori will be driven off and their supergate destroyed. They will still be there in their home galaxy and could potentially show up again later to bedevil our heroes. Foiled but not destroyed. That's my guess based on the pattern for such thing in previous seasons.
I don't know if they are planning a feature film or not. I would think that they could get funding fairly easily based on the long-term success of the show. If Whedon can get money for a feature film based on a show that lasted half a season, I would think getting funding for an SG-1 feature film would be well within the realm of possibility. -
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Mon, September 11, 2006 - 6:26 AMWeren't the replicators destroyed? I don't know how they'd destroy/defeat the Ori .... but I couldn't imagine for years that they'd ever defeat the Goa'uld, either. I thought they'd be battling the Goa'ulds until the show went off the air. Like you said, they are still around if they are needed or wanted (I can't imagine wanting them LOL) .... I can't remember any other real enemies they had/made that stuck around more than one episode. -
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Mon, September 11, 2006 - 9:10 PMThe Ancients weapon destroyed all the Replicators in earth's galaxy. There were other Replicator populations in other galaxies however. The Exodus/Enemies two parter showed one of those populations. As far as I can, they are still out there and could theoretically reappear. I doubt they will devote much screen time (if any at all) to the Replicator menace now especially after the big Replicator stoyline in season 8 and with so few episodes remaining. I think that if they reppeaer at all it will be as a one episode menace they way they sometimes use Ba'al.
The only other multi-season spanning enemies I can think of are the Goa'uld, the Ori and the Wraith. The Goa'uld don't run the galaxy anymore but they can still easily reappear as villains. Mainly I guess it would be one of the many Ba'als. The Wraith are still a looming threat like the Goa'uld were in the early SG-1 seasons. They and they Ori are both relatively new villains. -
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Tue, September 12, 2006 - 9:59 AMBut a more revelvant question is, how many other known worlds in the Stargate universe have been conquered by the Ori?
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Wed, September 13, 2006 - 12:41 AMI am not really sure. Other obligations have kept me from seeing SG-1 much this season. I saw the pilot where they hit Chulak (sp?) but that's about it. I have kind of lost track of current events.
It's hard to know exactly how many planets in Earth's galaxy they have conquered. Chulak has been featured on the show many times and is a pretty important location. Who knows how many minor planets have fallen to the Ori off-screen. Most would fall quickly with little or no fight. They only have so much time and budget. -
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Re: Ori conquests
Wed, September 13, 2006 - 6:28 AMWhat if the Tollan were still around? How likely would they be able to fend off an Ori attack? -
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Wed, September 13, 2006 - 4:55 PMNot very. Honestly i dont even think if we had a sizeable force of *pre acension* Ancient Technology wed really be much better off. We migh take out a few ships or slow them but ultimately it will take the knowledge of the ascended to counter the ascended.
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Wed, September 13, 2006 - 9:16 PMIf the ion cannons they based their defense on before are they best they have, they wouldn't stand a chance. They weren't able to beat the shield technology that Anubis had and Ori shield technology is at least as good and likely significantly better.
On the other hand, maybe the ions cannons weren't the best the Tollan could build. They always were rather complacent about their technological superiority. They relied on that one technology to defend them to a foolish, even suicidal, degree. Perhaps they were capable of buildng more formidable weapons but assumed (incorrectly) that the ion cannons would be good enough for the task. BY the time they realized that the techonolgy they relied on entirely for defense was no longer up to the job, it was too late to adjust or build anything else.
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Thu, September 14, 2006 - 5:57 PMStill though would it matter? Im mean think about it. AS ascended beings the Ori have an infinite repository of knowledge at thier disposal and a better understanding of the 4 dimensional universe and its properties and laws. Thus theoretically all they have to do is build the weapons... they already know how they work. Wheras the Tollan or even if you were to say the Alterrans (before knowldge of acension) have to first imagin the tech, theorize how it might work, then build it it, and then get it to work in practice. -
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Thu, September 14, 2006 - 5:59 PMAs an analogy its like comparing a modern group of scientists to a group of scientists from the 1700's. We already know about electricity, how it works, how to make a circut, etc... all we have to do is put the knowledge to task... the tem from the 1700's would ned to figure out all these key precurors.
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Thu, September 14, 2006 - 8:46 PMIt's impossible to really say. There are too many imponderables. We are dealing with super tech sci-fi stuff after all.
Perhaps there is a hard, physical limit on how good a given piece of technology can get. For example, the ZPM might be the best possible power source. The Ancients tried to go beyond that and draw zero point energy from this universe but it seemed fundamantally impossible to do. The ZPM may be as good as it gets. or maybe not.
Even if they have technology better than they have show, I doubt the Tollan would fare well. They have no head for warfare. -
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Fri, September 15, 2006 - 7:53 AMThere are still the Asgard and the Nox that are/were part of that alliance SG-1 found about on the episode with Dr. Littlefield. The Nox were/are a lot more technologically advanced than they cared to show. Maybe they can battle the Ori and win. -
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Fri, September 15, 2006 - 11:15 AMThe Nox... battle???? <scoff>
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Fri, September 15, 2006 - 2:14 PMThe Asgard are conveniently busy doing something else. Did they ever specify what? Replicators again? Their replicative fading/cloning problem? Anyway, they are largely out of the picture. I am guessing it's so they won't overshadow our heroes.
We know the Nox have advanced technology of some sort but that's about it. How good is their military technology? Do they even make any military technology? I don't know. Whatever they have is probably mostly defensive if not entirely defensive. They mostly showed their psychic-ish abilities. or was that technology?
I doubt they would fight in any case. They would probably use their abilites to lay low and avoid notice. They are the classic apparently low tech and primitive but actually enlightened and spiritually advanced pacifist sci-fi race. -
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Fri, September 15, 2006 - 7:36 PMI think that if it came down to life or death, the Nox would fight the Ori ... or at least disable their weapons so the Ori couldn't fight them. They (the Nox) may not interfere or try helping the rest of the universe, but they would defend themselves. There was a 4th group mentioned to O'Neill when he met the Asgard the first time. I don't remember their name, but as far as I know, we haven't met them yet. Perhaps they'll be of service. -
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Sat, September 16, 2006 - 1:08 PMI think it's entirely possible that they would die themselves before taking a life if their defenses and abilities aren't enough to keep the Ori at bay or elude them. It's difficult to say for certain when talking about a fictional alien race though. Someone could plausibly argue either position.
They were called the Furlings. I don't think they have been shown at all yet unless it was in one of the season 10 episodes I haven't seen. Afaik, their name and the fact that they were part of the alliance of races mentioned way back in season 1 in the Torment of Tantalus episode is all the information there is about them.. -
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Tue, September 19, 2006 - 12:08 PM< Not very. Honestly i dont even think if we had a sizeable force of *pre acension* Ancient Technology wed really be much better off. We migh take out a few ships or slow them but ultimately it will take the knowledge of the ascended to counter the ascended. >
This isn't Pokemon. It's not the size of your technology, but how you use it. We have demonstrated a unique flexibility to use tools and strategy, whereas the Ori seem rather simple in comparison.
I don't know what asension is, but, although the Ori seem all-knowing, they don't seem all-understanding.
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Re: Ori conquests
Wed, October 11, 2006 - 2:48 PMHow about the Re'tu? They exist out of phase within our universe. Would the fact that they are out of phase give them any advantage against the Ori fleet?
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